Teen Gothic

We're getting tired of people posting about it so this is the thread we are going to refer people to. No book has ever had 5+ posts in a month in r/goth.

These links have been posted previously. Here they are again so those who haven't read the book can get some insight into what it is about and join in the discussion.

https://loltolhurst.com/gothic/

https://post-punk.com/lol-tolhurst-delves-into-the-dark-romanticism-of-goth-with-forthcoming-new-book-on-the-subculture/amp/

https://apnews.com/article/goth-history-book-lol-tolhurst-cure-37451452c321455ea0c3c166a525d071

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/sep/21/goth-a-history-by-lol-tolhurst-review-the-dark-is-rising

Some quotes people seem to be focusing on the most –

“It’s not really a fashion,” he says. “It’s more of a philosophy in a way of being, a way of approaching the world. And I think that ensures its longevity. It’s malleable, but it’s sort of basic premise is always the same.”

“My life in Goth served as a kind of communal reverse meditation,” Tolhurst writes. “By exploring the darkness of books, films, music, and paintings together, we escaped for a brief moment to better understand the place we all found ourselves in time and space. We kept floating but now (were) a little more liberated."

We have had to remove a few comments and posts using this book to attack people. This will not be tolerated in this discussion. Keep it civil please, be critical and debate but don't insult. Remember the sub's rules.

Those of you who play video games, what goth songs have you encountered in them?

In GTA IV one radio station plays Sisters of Mercy's Dominion

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That’s the thrust of his new book, “Goth: A History”: Goth isn’t a way of dressing or a genre of music, but a lens through which to see the world. Goth is for everyone, Tolhurst writes, and it’s not a “phase” one has to outgrow.

“My life in Goth served as a kind of communal reverse meditation,” Tolhurst writes. “By exploring the darkness of books, films, music, and paintings together, we escaped for a brief moment to better understand the place we all found ourselves in time and space. We kept floating but now (were) a little more liberated.”

I’ve quite literally said this very thing in my own way, and been shut down for it by the gatekeepers of this reddit. But, as an 80’s kid, this was my experience and not unlike founding Cure member Tolhurst, I still think goth is a big enough umbrella to shelter all darkly inclined people, imo. What are your thoughts, and what are based on?

I love bands like Wire, Gang of Four, the Fall, the Raincoats, Pere Ubu, Magazine, Pylon, the Sound, Cleaners from Venus, A Certain Ratio, the Chameleons, etc. but haven't really dived into the goth end yet. I'd like to, honestly just cause there's not much of a community around that stuff and it's bumming me out. Where to start? Looking for stuff with some energy, something danceable. The moody atmospheric stuff isn't usually my vibe

Hellllo! I'm American ans almost fluent in Portuguese, I'd like some music to listen to while I work that will help me learn alittle more The only band I know right now is plastique noir and would like to add to that, maybe make a Portuguese Playlist

Post your links to new releases from 2000 or later, let's give some focus to new music. In the list below, you'll find some new releases from the past few weeks!

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Here's some great new post-punk/goth releases:

Another Abyss – "Everything Means Nothing" [Post-Punk/Goth] (Germany) [Released October 13, 2023]

El Ojo y la Navaja – "Extimidad LP" [Post-Punk/Minimal Wave] (Mexico) [Released October 13, 2023]

Dead Cool – "Faith or Misery" [Darkwave] (NC, USA) [Released October 13, 2023]

Under a Dark Light – "Vision (Under a Dark Light & 4dversary" [Post-Punk/Goth Rock] (France) [Released October 11, 2023]

Liquid Land – "Ninfa" [Darkwave] (Portugal) [Released October 9, 2023] (associated with Phantom Vision)

Jupiter Kick – "Floating Faces" [Deathrock] (France) [Released October 15, 2023]

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Want more? Check out our 2021, 2022, 2023 and soon, our 2024 spreadsheet of upcoming/recently released music.

Don't forget about our ever-growing list of post-punk, goth rock, darkwave, deathrock, etc. releasing labels!

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Post links to your favorite Goth events here! /u/DaveAzoicer is the only Goth event in Sweden (right now) Klubb Död! What's yours?

Hello!! I’m new to goth music and have been going down lists and lists of the most recommended classic songs and bands. Of Lilies and Remains is one of the songs that truly clicked for me. The bassline, the innovative melody, the lyrics, the weird instruments… it sounds so fresh and unlike anything I’ve ever heard before. I can’t even describe how I’m supposed to feel when listening to the song, it’s not sad and moody, nor overly funky and upbeat, it just has this very specific vibe that carries this calm, manic energy.

It feels so strange to ask how do I go about looking for music in the same genre, considering it’s clearly under the goth umbrella. I just have yet to encounter any other songs like that! Any recommendations will be highly appreciated